We met with the famous criminal and civil rights lawyer, Ronald Kuby, to interview him about his work. It was an honor to interview him knowing I will soon study this man and I’d already have a huge head start. I learned that the sold drugs as a teen. I learned he was brutalized many times by the police when he was 13. He explained the struggles and humiliation of being stripped down before the police and touched all of by them. He also explained how his university didn’t recommend him although he was an excellent students. His university said he was too arrogant. Therefore a bartender told him he should go to law school. Kuby was already into politics. It only made sense for him to become a lawyer. He wasn’t really that psyched enthusiastic about anthropology, any way. He wasn’t that good at math nor science, either. He didn’t see any path other than law. Today, as an accomplished lawyer, he believes one of of America’s biggest problems is mass incarceration. There are 2.3 million people in American prisons. And all of them will have to face the injustice of being an ex-prisoner. You can’t vote after being arrested. You can’t become a lawyer nor doctor after being arrested. It is as if you are still in jail. Ronald Kuby gave us a different perspective on police abuse and criminal injustice. Instead of focusing on the poor, innocent people that have been arrested because of their skin color, he focused on those who were arrested longer and abused more than they should’ve been for a small offense. He focused more on the injustice behind bars then they ones on the streets, while admitting that both mass incarceration and police abuse are highly unjust issues.