Jarvis Clutch Chapter 5 – Personal Connection
After reading chapter 5 . . .
Identify something that Jarvis observed about kids in his school that you found interesting. How does it relate to the social scene at LREI? In responding, don’t talk about specific individuals or incidents at LREI, but try to get at the underlying idea (e.g., instead of saying, “I remember when X . . .” try “sometimes a person can think that . . . .”
Feel free (in fact it is encouraged) to respond to someone who has posted before you. If you agree, explain why and see if you can take the idea deeper. If you disagree, explain why and offer your view on things. Whether you agree or disagree, respond respectfully and thoughtfully.
If you are responding to a classmate, click on the reply link in their comment so that your reply is connected to their comment.
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Like Caroline and Uma, I think that people can say things that they don’t really mean from anger or other people that are pushing them to say something. Even though they may not mean it someone might take it seriously and get upset or sad. A lot of times you can make things better but sometimes you can’t fix things that you say. I think we should be careful and think before we say things.
I agree with Rei. I feel like a lot of times when people get into a fight it is just a misunderstanding. If we all asked more questions and tried to figure out why we did this or that then maybe the people will have a consensus and the fight will end.
I agree with Rei I know that a lot of the times people can misunderstand something and then they will get really upset
I agree with Sylvie and Rei. People say aful things to each other because they’re angry. The worst part is that 9 times out of 10, the other person takes it personally, and then the conflict turns into something so much worse.
I agree with Rei, although you yourself might think that your joking someone else might take you very close to heart. Then, not knowing about it people then think that your mean, when technically, you just trying to joke or state something.
I agree with Rei. I think another part of that is that people like being right so when a fight breaks down, both of the people get scared of backing down even if one of them is wrong. Also I think that at enviroments like that school, the kids often listen to other students instead of using their own minds.
This is interesting. How many of us are comfortable admitting that we are wrong about something? How do we get better at this?
I think that it is hard for some people to admit that they are wrong about something. When ever I have a bet with my sister and she ends up being right, I always try and come up with reasons why she is wrong.
I am sometimes comfortable with admitting I am wrong. But sometimes I am not comfortable with admitting I am wrong.
I agree with Rei because I’ve heard things that people tried to say nicely, but then it came out the wrong way and the person gets the wrong impression. I think the hard part is that you sometimes don’t know why the other person is mad at you, and then what happens to your friendship?
I also agree with Rei (even though I’m the seventh person) that sometimes when someone wants to say something nice it can come out the wrong way and hurt someones feelings
I agree sometimes people are so angry with themselves they say mean things to others to hurt there feelings
I Agree with Mika. Moat of the time with bullies or just rude people have problems at home and are not happy with them selfs. Like Nelson from the Simpsons his dad left home and now he’s mean. I found that by looking up “TV SHOW BULLYS”
I Agree with Rei and Mika They are so so angry they spurt out mean things to people to make them feel bad.
I agree. Like in sports someone might fowl and next thing I no theres a whole fight just from a miss understanding.
I agree with Rei, sometimes if people have a lot going on they might take it out on there friends or other people.
Really good points. Maybe a lot of this hinges on really working hard to listen to what the other person is saying. If we are really listening, it might be easier to understand what the person really means )even if they did say it in a clunky way). Also, if we are really listening then we also need to think about how we can communicate back to the other person or people so that they can really hear us. Not always easy.
I agree.Sometimes if you had a bad time at home, you can take your anger out on other peope, if you are sad or angry. So before we say or do something, we should think if they deserve it.
I agree with Rei, because I have been I instances where I say things that I don’t actually mean. After that, I always feel so guilty and sad for doing what I did. Sometimes people ry to fix things, but it messes up, and things get worse
I agree, being mad or in a rough mood can lead to hurt feelings and sometimes violence. Thankfully none of this happens in our school!
I agree with Rei that sometimes people say hints they don’t mean like if they are mad, but not specifically them, but they need their and her out on someone.
I agree with Rei and Sylvie, fights can really affect people, and most of the time they are from misunderstandings. Misunderstandings can sometimes break a friendship apart.
I agree. I remember last year some people were misunderstanding when me and my friends had a secrete and they wanted to know it so bad that it got really annoying.
I agree with Rei and Jack because last year some people had some misunderstandings. It can break friendships apart but it that say it out of anger and not from a real point that they are trying to make. Fights can really affect people and what they think of other people but I think it is good that not many kids in LREI create large conflicts.
I agree with rei. Sometimes I say things that I don’t mean to and the person got mad at me. But then I try my hardest to fix things.
I agree with you if someone is mad they can just say things that they do not mean and someone else can think that it was meant for them and they actually take it the wrong way and that can start a fight. You should always think before you say something because it could do a lot more than what you wanted it to do.
Can you compete with someone and still be his/her friend? Do you think friends compete with each other a lot? What kinds of competitions do friends have with each other?
You can compete with someone and still be his/her friend!, because you have different opinions! You can compete with someone about finishing a science fair project faster then the other. You can compete about finishing a test earlier then the other person! You can see how many kids want to play with you! And how many people want to play with your component! There are many ways to compete and still be friends! You can go tubing and see who can beat the speed limit of your component!
I agree with Emma but also, if you compete with one of your friends sometimes the game or activity could get too competitive. Like if your like the character Palmer the Bomber, you may get too competitive and maybe hurt your friends feelings.
Like Allen, I feel like there can be a lot of people who are control freaks of their group. I feel like in every group everyone is mainly equal, but taking control of it is just cruel. I think this happens sort of often, maybe not in our school but often. People can just turn their entire group around without knowing it, and not knowing the effect it has on people. But some people do this on purpose, just to annoy their group.
I agree with Alexa. THere are some people that will take the aprotunity to work in a group and turn it into a one man show.
Sorry this is Caleb.
What can the group do when it knows that this is happening? It seems that sometimes, we just let this happen. Why do you think that this is the case?
If you’re about or someone’s about to do something that’s too aggressive it probably means that they’re mad or angry at someone or something. Everyone understands that if you’re mad it’s hard to put yourself in a good mood, So what I thought someone could do is stop and think about what they’re doing, make sure that they’re making the correct choice in the context. They might also take ten deep breaths and step into the other person’s shoes. Pretend that person is you and someone was about to do something aggressive to you, it would feel terrible.
Agreed. But not everyone can do that. It’s a hard skill and even I have a hard time with that sometimes.
sometimes people try to calm down, but have trouble doing it. that is why some people are always aggresssive.
I agree. Sometimes its really hard and you can’t do anything about it like your stuck in a box with your problems making fun of you and taking over your emotions. That’s why people have breakdowns and can’t control themselves.
I noticed that on the basketball court there were hogs that only wanted the ball for themselves and I thought that that was a great way of saying that some people have to lay off when it comes to control. Most people have great self control in our school but I can name one or two people that have to lay off with the constant “hogging the ball.”
I agree with Alexa M. Hogging the ball, or surrendering control to some one is something that lots of kids in middle school have to work on. If you are someone who is used to taking charge of things, it is good to sometimes give someone else a chance. If you are someone who doesn’t usually participate, it is good to try and step up and participate more. Who knows, you could find out that you are a great leader.
The interesting thing is that when there is someone “hogging” the ball, there are usually a number of other people who are experiencing this as it is happening. They actually have power. What can they do so that they are defining the norms as to what is okay?
I think the people that hog the ball are the people who think or are the best. But most people in our grade don’t do that. The people that hog the ball are the people who are always leaders and those leaders should let other people get the ball and the other people should try to be leaders. Also with Juliet’s thought my fish tank is a lot like that. One of the fish cases all the other fish around. I try to stop it but I can’t. My fish tank isn’t like this school at all but in some ways is the same.
I don’t really think Jarvis’s school is a lot like ours at all, the most I can agree with is that people fight here and there but this morning when I was looking at my fish tank I realized that my fish tank is a lot like Jarvis’s school! I have a red fish named Flush that is like the school bully he is always chasing fish his size and smaller. Then I have two yellow ally’s Thing 1 and Thing 2 they are always together like Omma and Aretha. Then I have the Target, a small orange fish named Tangerine he is always getting picked on. Then we have the popular kids a large Crown Beta named crown and a angle fish named Angle because she is supper oblivious but they don’t do much in the way of defending tangerine from flush.
Yes. I agree with Juliet. Every school is different, in good ways and bad ways. There is a lot of fighting, judging, excluding, and popularity issues at Jarvis’s school. I don’t think LREI is anything like that.
I think Jarvis’s school is less organized than LREI and the students don’t have connections with their teachers so they have nobody to trust if they are having issues with, bullies, popularity,etc.
I agree with you at LREI people know there teachers better than at his school. Also like you said they do not trust each other that much and people are always getting bulled. Also people are concerned with being popular and what not.
I think that in Jarvis’s school there are a lot of people who do a lot of not right things and know it’s not right but don’t care and Jarvis’s school it seems that there are more of these kids than good kids who turn down peer pressure even if they are not liked anymore. In my life I know for a fact that I have done some wrong things that I knew were wrong before I did them but I also that I have done a lot of correct things and in Jarvis’s school not many kids could say that.
How does our community respond when people do “wrong” things?
I agree with victor there is always some really weird people in his school in this case agressive
I agree with Caroline, every school is different and they all of their own ways of running their school.
I don’t have any personal connections to Jarvis’ story because the school in that book is so different. Our school has a friendly environment and no one is really mean to each other. This is how I feel, but maybe others will not agree.